Top Senate Democrat Chuck Schumer has been caught on a hot microphone recounting the advice he’s giving to President Donald Trump.

Schumer told a colleague that he told Trump that “you’re much better off if you can sometimes step right and sometimes step left.”

The remarks took place on the Senate floor and were captured by C-SPAN. Schumer said Trump “likes me” but it was unclear from the video to whom Schumer was talking.

Sounding pleased, Schumer predicted, “Oh, it’s going to work out, and he’ll make us more productive, too.”

Schumer is trying to work out a deal with Trump to give legal protections to immigrants known as “dreamers” who were illegally brought to the country as children.